Fifth fantastic day TSC conference april 25 -personal diary

Börje Peratt in interview with Filmmaker Magdalena

Börje Peratt in interview with Filmmaker Magdalena


This friday was a range of synchronicity that changed my path. But lets start with the first session of the day.
plenary 7

Petra Stoerig, –Your’s, Her’s, Mine? Self-Related Processes– talked about her research on visual perception from monkey study and then about blindsight.

The presentation was a biological and neurological perspective with presentation of slides from brain scan showing activation spots in brain. It was to me two separate talks and I couldn´t figure out how to correlate them. To me such studies would be more catching if they started with the question: Is blindsight possible, if so how? and if so what can be the outcome in real life?” Perhaps that also was a part of the content but in that case I didn´t understand it.

My purpose of knowledge about the brain is of practical use
When I did a documentary (Stress 1986) the purpose was to understand what stress causes in perceptions and how it may effect a driver of a car. Then it was interesting to find out how especially disturbing situations caused the frontal cortex to block. That is the logical mind is gone for the force of fear and fight of the reptile brain.

When i wrote my first book Succébo (2011) in pursuing development of the brain and trying to understand how brain works I had several purposes. Among them it was to find consequenses in the brain and body of certain attitudes and behaviors. Brainscans could show how visual perceptions perhaps could limit the mind. I was also interested in what led to mental expansion and power. For example where to find the process of placebo (Martin Ingvar 2012). I believe I might have initiated that research with my questions in 1986 when Ingvar was into research on phobias.

My first interest was motivated by understanding the effect on difficult daily situations and also the effect on problemsolving, for instance tunnel sight during teamwork, communication and in traffic.

My other interest was to find out where in the brain to find placebo and also if it can be learnt. This neurologist Martin Ingvar began to study after me asking him if placebo was possible to find in the brain.

I now have another interest and that is to find creativity i brain.
A study on music improvisations might be a way to locate this creativity. I also think that such a study might show that training expands creativity spots in brain. I also think that these spots might be kind of an orchestra, that is you will find several locations activated and growing when trained.

Only the medical aspect certainly might be of great interest for medicine doctors and neuro scientists and other interested in the physical aspects of consciousness and brain damage.

The development of transpersonal psychology
A lot of interesting studies have been made of patients from the second world war. This also led to the creating of Transpersonal psychology a new disciplin taking the stand of a holistic view.

Today it seems like most of researcher at TSC are reductionists. My reflection on this is how specialists can be so focused and pursue mechanic responses but not so interested in an holistic understanding and surrounding possibilities. On the contrary I overheard a discussion calling it weird trying to figure out experiences of more spectacular kind. So then I am also weird. Well that isn’t new to me. If You are a boxthinker then every free thinker is weird.

The two following talks was:
– Mary Peterson, Beyond the Classical Feed-Forward View of Figure-Ground Segregation and – Russell Hurlburt, Investigating Pristine Inner Experience: Implications for consciousness science, developmental psychology, neuroscience, and self-understanding.

Neurons neurons neurons …..

On my way to session 8 about Integrated Information Theory whith Christof Koch and Gulio Tononi I stumbled upon Dan Park MD and Ph.D.

He wanted to record an interview with me and that took about an hour so I came late to session eight and ended up in more neurons. Therefore I can´t give justice to tell anything about that. But I agree with Dan Park that TSC 2014 is mostly about brain from a technical point of view. And I also appreciated the conversation with Dan Park that was very giving. So hopefully we stay in touch.

I came half way in to the session with Koch and heard him say:

“you can only experience one thing at the time.”

Is it true? Then I am an anomali.

I then was on my way to session 9 Quantum Approaches with Max Tegmark, Stuart Hameroff and Anirban Bandyopadyay. But now I stumbled upon Magdalena who is doing a documentary and I told her that I also was filmmaker. She asked me about the background and interest in consciousness. I told her about the car crash that started it all. She immediately asked me to do a short interview (supposedly half an hour). This took two and a half hours and it became a profound experience for us both and also for her partner. She wanted to show me her ten minutes filmpilot and I was impressed by its fine story and talented editing.

Filmmaker Magdalena and partner Dean Morgan

Filmmaker Magdalena and partner Dean Morgan

I really hope that she gets funding. The illumination around this couple is beautiful.

Concurrent sessions

At 5:00 PM concurrent sessions started and I choose Anomalies of Consciousness.

It handled subjects that at least interested me more than any other session. And I wasn´t disappointed. I summarize it with the last speaker

“Sometimes we got to get into the dark to see light (Gary E. Schwartz)”

At 7:00 PM it was poster session. I tell about them separately.

Sad to say I miss saturday and especially the discussion about the upcoming 20 years. I would have a lot to say but then again perhaps it is best that I then sit on a flight back to Stockholm.

Hopefully I will be able to participate a moment on session 10. Death and consciousness the for me most interesting session of all week. What will Sam Parnia tell about the Aware study? Are there any results?

Anyway thank You TSC and Tucson for another fantastic day.

Börje Peratt

Third day TSC conference april 23

Plenary2

Plenary 2 session about “Attention and Consciousness”

This interesting session implicated already in the headline that it was more about perception and understanding and then describing consciousness by the way senses and brain works.

Speakers Michael Graziano, Alison Gopnik and Ned Block.

In the way Ned Blocks presented his research i came to think of brain´s limitation of consciousness that an illusionist might use to fool the perception of reality.

How attention affect awareness was a question to Graziano who answered that it was a two way process.
Childhood consciousness have a lantern (wider) observance while the adult has a spotlight focus.

Are feeling (consiousness) and thought (cognition) fundamentally different?
by Ned Block philosophy

Ned Block says his perspective is the opposit of Daniel Dennets “Consciousness is just a sort of judgement”.

meaning Cognition is sparse and Perception is rich.

Ned gave some amusing samples of this statement also reffering to where in brain the perception occurs.

Subliminal or unconsious perception
Percept vs Concept. You need concept to formalize perception.

Attention and broacasting
Youtube Ned Block on Consciousness as an Illusion

Afternoon

Plenary4

Subjectivity and Ojectivity

John Searle

Among his notable concepts is the “Chinese room” argument against “strong” artificial intelligence.

We should think of consciousness as perceiving…

We are in the early states of correlations and we don´t yet know what is significant.

There is a higher level that excludes the problem of cause and effect. On a lower level action can be described as neuron communication but that still don´t explain the question.

Rebecca Goldstein (born February 23, 1950) is an American novelist and philosopher. She has written six novels, a number of short stories and essays, and studies of mathematician Kurt Gödel and philosopher Baruch Spinoza.
Her speach was to explain that feature and fiction do the same thing namely externelize consciuosness that the scientist do but much richer. By using tricks to show that it is a subjective process in the brain.

“And then miracle occurs”

Deepak Chopra

Dr Chopra discussed different points of views regarding the hard problem that Chalmers introduced and stressed that he did not involve any of a long range of indian thinker, philosopher or yogis.

A good yogi can regulate inner organs of the body.

Comment: This is the first dimension in my theory named “Body consciousness”. You can compare this body controll with Archaean organism moving around DNA molecules without endangering its life just trying new solutions./end comment.

Then Chopra ask:

What is consciousness?
What is existense?
What is awareness of existens?

There is no explanation for any experience, mental or perceptual.

How do atoms and molecules buildup to a brain producing consciousness?

(My reflection: Cell consciousness? cell mind? cell intelligence?)

How do we explain intention, experience imagination?
Perhaps a top down approach is the answer?

Non Local Possibility Field (Comment: Term from Larry Dossey?
My term Independent or of material world consciousness)

Consciousness is non-local and acausal

It expresses itself as qualia gestalts, which are fundamental properties of mind: sensations, images feelings and thoughts

Consciousness agent are expressions of consciousness there are species and culture.

Chopra text

Chopra text

Plenar discussion

showed that there were two different levels of thinking and since they didn´t understand each other it led nowhere.
To use my terminology Deepak talked about Independent Consciousness and John about elemental mind.

Finally there was a question of creativity. I couldn´t find out what they ment. Att that point I guess they were to aggravated.

Well in my opinion Creativity is a fundamental force in every consciousness on any level down to mikroorganism.

Börje Peratt

Second day TSC conference and official start april 22

This day started at the breakfast table with a long meeting with my friend Jan Pilotti and saying hello to some i met earlier. You find photos and most meetings in gallery below.

Melody Hong from Taiwan was on the plan to Tuscon from SF and we had a long talk the whole trip. Then Graeme Breckon NZ turned up with a surprised look. To meet him even for a short second gives both energy and joy. So the breakfast continued until lunch and there was no seminar for me this morning.
Plenary1
Official start
Stuart Hameroff introduced the speakers starting with David Chalmers first giving a historical summery of what has happened the last 20 years. And also bringing up different views, pros and cons about The “Hard Problem” (note).
Second speaker Daniel Dennet representing not only a hard materialist but also the Four Horsemen of New Atheists opened with a statement that he had the only usefull statement.
What is the “Hard Question” and postulating that this conference haven´t reached anywhere during this 20 years.
Third speaker Donald Hoffman started up with a story about a lost beetle and i came to think of Darwins the surviving of the fittest or the ones who are not rigid but flexible. So when the numbers turned up I left. I´m not fit to follow consciousness in mathematical formulas.

Afterwards there were many discussions. Daniel Dennett were stopped and listened patiently to questions and defended his (professional) atheistic attitude. “Someone has to stand up for this discussion” he said. He also answered a few questions and admitted that he had seen that the group also has been called the Apocalypse Riders (on Swedish Wikipedia).

I then met Adarsh Deepak again with his wonderful wife they form a winning team but she is rather behind the camera than in front of it. It would be nice to develope our contact into a work this also Adarsh suggested. And that also goes for Dan Park. We have had several long ineteresting conversations.

At the evening it was a big feast with food and drinks and more meetings. Overall a fantastic panpsychic day.

If someone wants to fill me in the hard problem, feel free to do that 🙂

I have my Poster session (P1: 337) this Wednesday April 23, 2014, 7:00 pm to 10:00 pm at Arizona Historical Museum.

Börje Peratt

Note Wikipedia
The hard problem of consciousness is the problem of explaining how and why we have qualia or phenomenal experiences — how sensations acquire characteristics, such as colours and tastes. David Chalmers, who introduced the term “hard problem” of consciousness, contrasts this with the “easy problems” of explaining the ability to discriminate, integrate information, report mental states, focus attention, etc. Easy problems are easy because all that is required for their solution is to specify a mechanism that can perform the function. That is, their proposed solutions, regardless of how complex or poorly understood they may be, can be entirely consistent with the modern materialistic conception of natural phenomena. Chalmers claims that the problem of experience is distinct from this set, and he argues that the problem of experience will “persist even when the performance of all the relevant functions is explained”.

First day and meetings at TSC Tucson

Monday 21 april at TOWARD A SCIENCE OF CONSCIOUSNESS 2014 in Tucson Arizona USA.
The first day was actual preconferens with a number of workshops and random meetings. I present them in this gallery. We started in morning with Nondual Awareness and the Unity of Consciousness: Experience and Research by Zoran Josipovic and Judith Blackstone
giving a workshop containing of contemplative experiences describing a unity transcending self-object dichotomy. Neuroimaging reveals possible mechanisms for nondual awareness.

There are questions about this still to be answered.

Then I met Mr Jameson Ford who gave me a personal lesson about Quantom.
In the evening I met the very nice mr Graeme Breckon NZ, and also Peter Walling Texas MD, and we had a very interesting conversation.

Börje Peratt